Founder Conversations · A series

The conversations founders
don't get to have anywhere else.

Long-form, on the record, hosted by Jennifer. Behavioral health owners on the practices they built, the offers they walked away from, and the chapter they're writing next.

Jennifer, host of Founder Conversations.
JenniferHost · Co-founder, KindwellClinician, founder, and longtime owner-operator. Has sat in every chair in a behavioral health practice.
The host

Jennifer hosts the way founders actually talk when no one is selling anything.

Every conversation is shaped by a single rule: leave the room with something the founder hadn't said out loud before. Listeners get the unguarded version — the offers, the regrets, the second chances, the team they wished they'd built sooner.

Featured · Episode 41
Laurel Thornton

Selling without disappearing.

Laurel Thornton · Beacon Mental Health · Boston · 52 min

Kindwell was the first conversation that did not ask me to give up what I had spent twenty-five years building.
Laurel Thornton · Beacon Mental Health · Boston
Chapters
  1. 00:00

    The practice she didn't mean to build

  2. 07:14

    Three offers, two walkaways, one phone call

  3. 18:42

    Clinical-first diligence, in plain English

  4. 29:05

    What changes — and what doesn't — after the close

  5. 41:30

    What she'd tell the founder she was in 1998

The archive

Every conversation,
in chronological order.

  1. Ep. 40Jun 04 · 47 min

    The check that kept the keys.

    Dr. Kari SandozRiverstone Associates · Denver

    Three years into a growth partnership, on the difference between capital that grows you and capital that absorbs you.

  2. Ep. 39May 21 · 44 min

    The hire that finally let me stop being the operator.

    Dr. Devon WrightCypress Health · Atlanta

    On founder-to-CEO transitions, the first clinical director, and the day the calendar stopped owning him.

  3. Ep. 38May 07 · 51 min

    Why we said no to three offers before this one.

    Dr. Allison ParkNorthbay Behavioral · Oakland

    Pattern-matching the wrong buyer in the room — and the five questions Allison now starts every diligence call with.

  4. Ep. 37Apr 23 · 58 min

    Two years post-close.

    Dr. Maya ParkHalo Mental Health · Seattle

    Halo's founder on the parts of the transition that surprised her — and the parts that turned out exactly like Kindwell said they would.

  5. Ep. 36Apr 09 · 39 min

    Building the leadership team you'll need in three years.

    Dr. Jonah EllisCedar Counseling · Madison

    Why Jonah promoted three clinicians into operating roles before he hired a single MBA.

  6. Ep. 35Mar 26 · 42 min

    What I'd protect first if I were starting over.

    Dr. Sara KimAnchor Therapy · Brooklyn

    The intake conversation, the supervision rhythm, and the comp model — in that order.

  7. Ep. 34Mar 12 · 46 min

    Running the practice on a system, not on instinct.

    Dr. Priya AnandNorthbay Behavioral · San Mateo

    What changed in the twelve months after Residency.

  8. Ep. 33Feb 26 · 55 min

    What clinical-first diligence actually looks like.

    KyleClinical Advisor · Kindwell

    Inside the Kindwell process — what we read, who we call, and the things that quietly kill deals.

  9. Ep. 32Feb 12 · 62 min

    Why we built Kindwell.

    Trenton Walker & JenniferCo-founders · Kindwell

    Origin episode. The practices that wouldn't sell to the obvious buyer — and what we kept hearing on those calls.

Recurring columns

Stories we keep
coming back to.

  • Monthly

    The first call

    What founders actually say in the first hour. Recurring, anonymized, with permission.

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  • Quarterly

    Post-close diaries

    Founders six, twelve, and twenty-four months after joining Kindwell — in their own words.

    Read the archive →
  • Bi-weekly

    The clinician seat

    Conversations with the clinical directors and supervisors who keep practices clinical-first as they scale.

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Founder Conversations · Free to listen

One letter, every other Friday. New episodes, the transcript, and what we heard.

No spam. No upsell. Just the conversations and the work behind them.